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In the ATM machine withdrawals as much as six thousand Yuan counterfeit? Complaints to the bank, but because of the difficulties of proof and nowhere claims. Recently, microblogging message will major banks pushed the cusp of public opinion, despite all the major banks, public relations, told reporters prove "impossible", but industry sources,moncler sito ufficiale,http://akagin.sakura.ne.jp, the bank at the time of the operation or the presence of four major blind spots, Experts suggest that people do not want to leave after the withdrawal immediately, once problems are detected immediately on the camera to produce counterfeit ID, and contact the staff in order to avoid the burden of proof nowhere to eat boring loss.

Take the case now as much as six thousand Yuan counterfeit

Recently,moncler doudoune, some users on the microblogging broke the news that 22 of their colleagues in Beijing on the evening of a bank ATM machine withdrawals, 1,000 yuan in cash as much as 6 coarsely even numbers counterfeit. It is understood that the victim the next day that is to contact the bank complaints have been asked to produce evidence, "looking for counter resolve firmly denied inadmissible, the bank's mistakes what banks pay?" The netizen said on the microblogging and claiming to authenticate the identity of swear said is true, that certified as "Renren market operations director."

Article microblogging forwarded immediately attracted thousands of friends, friends, "Crazy Yang Lin" (microblogging real-name authentication technology products, public relations manager for the millet), said his colleagues "Ethics for the blog" on at 21:40 on the 26th in a Bank teller in Beijing Wangjing Branch get to four hundred counterfeit. Many netizens said that the future ATM cash withdrawal had long in mind, look again to close.

ATM "spit" counterfeit money is not the case

Talking ATM remove counterfeit money, Mr. Bai Lingma work still fresh in Zhangjiang,woolrich punti vendita, "I have met twice." The first occurred shortly after arrived in Shanghai to work. At the time, he was the first by a state-owned bank branch ATM Zhangjiang took the money from within the individual wage Cary, then went to the bank to repay all its own counter. Unexpectedly, the teller told him,prezzi moncler donna, just take the money as much as a counterfeit, not help him much thought,woolrich spaccio bologna orari, the teller has confiscated counterfeit. "She told me it was counterfeit, cover the top of a chapter directly taken away. This is just taken out of money! Want to go back and find that the bank will not work, it is stifling."

Shortly afterwards, soon after, he met in a counterfeit ATM withdrawals in spit. Two consecutive losses to let him grow a lesson. "Now just take a slightly larger amount,felpe woolrich, I will go to the counter, so the teller face to face with the Detector point again, even if it is counter to queue while ATM when a man did not."

He told reporters that such a situation does not occur in him a man who heard his colleagues also had to take over counterfeit ATM.

Bad luck or even "Duanjinqueliang"

"200 Ocean has not chase." Wong working in the media industry is no longer encounter counterfeit money, they have met the cash "Duanjinqueliang" issue.

He told reporters a few months ago, he took his debit card to withdraw money from a state-owned big firms. Who knows, that the number of sheets,http://www.kaz32.com/cgi-bin/nextbbs.cgi?mode=form&no=472&page=2, less 200 yuan. He then contacted the cardholder bank customer service staff. Several weeks later, the customer informed verified by other banks, he removed the money in full, less money situation does not exist.

"I was speechless. Customer Service suggested I look to find other bank surveillance video, but the video is also difficult to see the money come, separated for so long,http://www.fukushi-hiroba.com/magazine/cgi/talk/ftalk.cgi?res=176, the amount is not large, I also suspected trouble."

Banks responded

A number of banks have to prove "impossible"

For ATM spit counterfeit saying, someone's bank to respond to the media, said the bank "self-service equipment loaded double cash have been monitored at least three times in the lens use by the People's Bank of China has identified Counting identify the authenticity of banknotes feature After the equipment inventory. Therefore, cash placed inside the device does not appear counterfeit. and the banknote cassette into the cassette immediately sign letters, pipe crew to clean portable cassette machines were unable to reach the scene throughout the banknote cash box . "

Meanwhile, the bank also responded that "self-CRSs device also has been recognized by the People's Bank of China to identify counterfeit features, can do on the deposited counterfeit money inadmissible. After contact customer deposit its report counterfeit test, show can not be saved, "so" the situation does not appear remove counterfeit devices,woolrich bambino, it is recommended dubious circumstances be reported to the police department. "

Reporter then interviewed several other banks interested parties to reporters to prove "impossible." "ATM functions are all paper money, and high sensitivity, counterfeit money is deposit does not go in, banks are less likely to fill it up counterfeit. So remove the counterfeit situation does not occur." A state-owned big firms stakeholders told reporters. She also revealed that there have customer complaints through the microblogging and other ways to get from counterfeit ATM, banks also adjust video verification,http://www.kdm.bz, are eventually found not to reflect that.

If you take into counterfeit how to do? Banks will be responsible for it? The person politely gives a negative answer,http://70.1st.gr.jp,hogan uomo outlet, "recommends that customers immediately to the police, the bank will actively cooperate with the investigation." Another state-owned big firms also told reporters that the bank ATM's banknotes is guaranteed, there may be counterfeit sex is not,tiffany bologna, strictly abide by the central bank banks of the provisions on anti-counterfeit.

Number of joint-stock banks stakeholders have told reporters not received any complaints related to counterfeit ATM spit, and the question "theoretically impossible", in this case the bank did not reply will be responsible for the problems. Where a row of a relevant figure that any one entering the ATM banknotes are "positively identified" before. "Even the emergence of new kinds of counterfeit money, after regulators informed, we will first contact the ATM vendor, money detector function of the device to be updated."

The industry expose

Bank deposit operations or four blind spots

Zhexiang is taken to counterfeit consumer complaints, that car is Bank Public Relations prove "impossible", this Rashomon exactly why not? Reporters interviewed a bank insiders, the source told reporters, members of the public get to counterfeit bank ATM possibility does exist, because of the presence of several major banks operating in the blind spot.

"First, because of higher costs than many ATM machines counter cash registers,http://www.educacioncontracorriente.org/archivo/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62841%253Adiscutir-no-esta-a-discusion-guillermo-sheridan&catid=14%253Amaestros&Itemid=29, chip update speed is often less than the counter, probably counterfeit money has been upgraded, and the ATM machine chips have not upgraded." The source said, "The first Second, someone deliberately '',http://castiron.m78.com/bbs/light.cgi, previously encountered some people obviously are going to take now,woolrich originale, the results of the bill came out, he did not take it away, but secretly change a few counterfeit money into it,giubbino moncler, so that the customer does not have a machine to make a withdrawal , over time, again swallow money back, naturally, less paper money this off, these counterfeit successfully mixed. Of course, there may be functional differences between different bank machines. "

The source added: "The third point, ATM machine where money is really going to put in front of cash registers at the counter were paper money, but may not have the cash registers of staff happens to be adjusted to the security mode, just to stay in Smart or light detection mode, as part of a counterfeit may not be detected, so "fish" into the ATM machine; Fourth, counter money counter does not update, did not detect the latest counterfeit, is also possible. "

"And for the banks, the people take to the counterfeit can be said no check against the dead." The source said, "If you leave the trouble withdrawal point, come back the bank, the bank will not be recognized."

Expert statement

The larger public difficulty of proof

Bank ATM machine to take the consequences of counterfeit currency can only really eat into their own, nowhere rights? Deputy director of the Consumer Protection Committee of Shanghai Jiao Li Zhao told reporters that if there is proof indeed counterfeit taken out from the bank in ATM, banks naturally want to be responsible, to make up for the loss of consumers. That problem is that the consumer is very difficult to obtain evidence. "How to prove that money is the ATM spit it out,hogan 2014 uomo, rather than the other way to get it? Both banks and consumers should provide evidence, and evidence is clearly more difficult for consumers." She explained that it has not received any city CASE related complaints, but there are similar incidents to justice. Consumers had called at the bank counter withdrawals, after leaving the counter found counterfeit money, he sued the bank to court, but ultimately lost the case for lack of evidence.

Zhao Jiao Li also said that for such problems, banks should try to do the "fidelity" from all aspects of the work, to eliminate counterfeit appear possible, ensure that the interests of consumers.

Associate Professor, School of Shanghai Institute of Foreign Trade Li and Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences Institute of Law Civil and Commercial Economic experts Jiang Kai also in an interview with reporters expressed a similar view that the public in the face of such a situation, but can not prove due eat Yaba Kui. Jiang Kai said: "The key is not currently relevant regulations for such events norms and constraints, which may lead to rational people can not tell."

Experts suggest that people once found in front of the ATM machine to take to counterfeit, it is recommended to produce counterfeit immediately camera number, and contact with the network staff,http://www13.plala.or.jp/white_roots/gwbbs/gwbbs.cgi??, carry out confrontation, to avoid unnecessary losses.

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